Grateful Dead Live at Tivolis Koncertsal on 1972-04-14
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This show has been commercially released as " Europe '72: The Complete Recordings - All The Music Edition"
Me And My Uncle
You Win Again
Black Throated Wind
Me And Bobby McGee
Playing In The Band
Big Boss Man
Beat It On Down The Line
It Hurts Me Too
Brown Eyed Women
Looks Like Rain
Dark Star ->
Good Lovin' ->
Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) ->
Who Do You Love? ->
Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) ->
Ramble On Rose
Not Fade Away ->
Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad ->
Not Fade Away
One More Saturday Night
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|Me & My Uncle|
|You Win Again|
|Black Throated Wind|
|Me And Bobby McGee|
|Playing In The Band|
|Big Boss Man|
|Beat It On Down The Line|
|It Hurts Me Too|
|Brown Eyed Women|
|Looks Like Rain|
|Dark Star ->|
|Sugar Magnolia ->|
|Good Lovin' ->|
|Caution (Do Not Step on Tracks) ->|
|Who Do You Love? ->|
|Caution (Do Not Step on Tracks) ->|
|Ramble On Rose|
|Not Fade Away ->|
|China Cat Sunflower Tease ->|
|Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad ->|
|Not Fade Away|
|One More Saturday Night|
This is a pitch/speed fixed version of shn id 34552 The lineage is extended as follows: SBD -> (16 Track) Master Reel -> Dat (44.1k); Dat (Sony R500) -> SEK'D Prodif Plus -> Samplitude Profesional v8.01 -> FLAC -> Adobe Audition 1.5 -> pitch/speed correction* -> flac -> TraLiHe -> sbe's fixed
Note: Bert Slany, 07/23/2006
--All tracks suffered from speed/pitch slowness to different degrees:
--disc 1: an average 1.8% slow
--disc 2: also approx 1.8% slow
--disc 3: an average 2.3% slow
--disc 4: an average 3.5% slow
--I have no good explanation for why the speed/pitch offset varies between individual
discs, but it does. (were these different DAT tapes, i.e. A/D transfers done with
different hardware or at different points in time possibly by different individuals?)
--both patch sources are also affected by a speed/pitch offset, but to so small a
degree that I did not try to fix it.
--logic as well as physics dictate that in the analog realm speed and pitch most
likely vary together to proportional degrees. Anything else is the absolute
exception. I.e. in this case a tape ran slow somewhere in the analog part of
the lineage and thus yielded a low _and_ slow collection of tracks (I doubt the
direct 16 track -> DAT). This can also be heard by the keen ear in the original
transfer as a _speed_ difference between the patch sources and the 16 track
source. In the analog realm one would therefore fix the the pitch of the show
by e.g. letting the mixdown tape run faster, affecting both speed _and_ pitch.
There are tools in almost every digital audio processing software to achieve
just that in the digital realm. If you have grave concerns and don't follow the
logic of this argument, you might want to consider preparing another fixed
--the lineage of the show is updated as follows:
flac -> Adobe Audition 1.5 -> pitch/speed correction* -> flac -> TraLiHe -> sbe's fixed
*To fix the slow pitch/speed of this show I loaded the individual tracks into Adobe
Audition. I then used the following tool to work on the pitch/speed:
"Effects" -> "Time/Pitch" -> "Stretch" -> "Constant Stretch" -> "Stretching Mode" set to
"Resample (preserves neither [pitch nor tempo]) -> "Compress" to "Ratio" of choice -> "OK"
--To ascertain the correct "ratio" I used a six string tuned to concert pitch A=440
Hz and "tuned the song" until I felt I had the correct pitch. I only ever used
_one_ transformation step for tuning to the correct pitch/speed. The result is an
even nicer sounding show.
--If one were so inclined, one could burn this show to three discs instead of four:
--1st disc: d1t01-13 + d2t01
--2nd disc: d2t02-06 + d3t01-02
--3d disc: d3t03-08 + d4
--Thanks to Charlie Miller for supplying us with this beauty of a recording. Lots of
dynamics and transparency galore in this one!! Thank you Thank you Thank you!!!!!
- 2008-05-07 14:22:58
- Dat (Sony R500) -> SEK'D Prodif Plus -> Samplitude Profesional v8.01 -> FLAC
- This show has been commercially released as " Europe '72: The Complete Recordings - All The Music Edition"
- Transferred by
- Charlie Miller
- Tivolis Koncertsal
Subject: Dark Star top shelf 72
Subject: I'll still sing you love songs..
Hurts Me Too- bluesy
,B.E. Women,-perfect staple
LLR-last with Garcia on Pedal Steel
Dark Star ->Sugar Mag - OMG!
Good Lovin' ->Caution ->Who Do You Love? ->
Caution ->Good Lovin' -PIG goes to town
Ramble On Rose-a staple of this tour
e) Saturday Night-"see ya later"
Subject: 1st København; 1st Denmark; 4th Europe '72
Often considered one of the best of the E72s, this show was heavily mined for official releases. Aside from the full show, Brown-Eyed was on the original Europe '72 with the Good Lovin' sandwich a bonus-disc grouping. Europe '72 v.2 used the Bertha, Chinatown, and Loser.
First Set. Bertha is an average start - not the eksempel vidunderligt of 4/8, 5/3 or 4/26. MaMU is bouncy as a wienerbrød. Check Jer during the penultimate verse. Mr. Charlie was played every freaking night but damned if this ain't the one. You Win is the only wtf of the set. Black-Throated was arranged too blocky to usually come off this tight, with it's Dylanesque verbosity and stilted rhythm (Billy called it "contrived"). This too is the one. Keith gets a great piece of Chinatown. Lyrically undeveloped, it would be overlooked as a nightly filler if this'n weren't so punchy. You can hear Bobby perfectly on Loser (Susie), weaving with Jer. The solo is okay but the chording and fills are excellent. McGee was nailed throughout the tour but stand-out Cumberland only took a shift 4 times on the tour. This one does not sound like the others. Playin' is good but not one of the wild ones from the tour (say, 4/21, 4/24, or 4/26). Donna's cat isn't in heat; so there's that.
Second Set. There are a handful of tiptop Tennessee Jeds from E72 and this is one. I way-dig El Paso when jer adds crazy fills, staying busy in Bobby's "country shit" but Keith is likewise busy. (How was it that Bobby would remember this detailed story and then usually flub Truckin'? Well, except for "cratered by two loving arms"). Keith is on-the-money for BioDtL-13 (Pig calls for 12 but Bobby calls a baker's). Check Phil on Casey Jones. Truckin' is an average version until the jam. Jer just jumps in cannonball-stylee and then pats it in neat and tidy. You get Pig's wail on Hurts Me Too and Jer switches to slide (pretty sure that's not Bobby). Brown-Eyed Women is heard with Pig's organ and without the overdubs of Europe '72 and it improves the middle eight! Much has been noted about this crazy-good Looks Like Rain due to Jer's phenomenal pedal steel. He put it away after this until Dylan '87! They had their harmonies nailed. This was the 3rd one ever but was only played once more this year [Hartford]. Of the 11 Dark Stars this is one of the shortest. There's a Wharf Rat tease but it doesn't really shine until 15 minutes in where the tranny>Sugar Mag is amazing ("a wrinkle of a daydream"). Then it's a little rough but never more energetic. Bobby never learned the heavy metal scream (there's a safe method) and just shreds his voice instead. Good Lovin' features a huge (but not classic) Pig rap. The tour was also full of Ramble on Rose but this just has every piece in place - even better than 5/26. Billy launches Not Fade with a stringendo then Jer goes strident. Bobby plays the China Cat riff, Jer follows, then they both telepathically, perfectly, let it disperse as cloud to ether so it can resolve to: GDtRFB. Jer's solos are pre-loaded, erupting fully-formed. This is the machine, yo! They had something to prove to the Danes through One More Saturday - Keith's good; band's on fire.
A 3 1/2-hour show (1/2-hour less than Wigan), it's one of the 4 or 5 best of the 22 dates of the tour, it's also a top 20 of '72 - which is great when you consider '72 is one of the top 5 years. They came back and played another good show the following week, in what is actually an amusement park (the world's oldest of its type). This used to be one of the B&P E72s due to FM copies. It's marginally better than the sparkly fireworks of 4/7 & 4/8 but still an embarrassment of riches.
1st Set: A-
2nd Set: B+
Overall = 4 1/2 Stars
Me and My Uncle - spry
Mr. Charlie - A+
Black-throated Wind - rarely this unclunked
Chinatown Shuffle - perfect version
Loser-Susie - listen close to the fills
Me & Bobby McGee - not busted flat
Cumberland Blues - unique, uptempo
Tennessee Jed - ain't no place you'd rather be
Beat it On Down the Line-13 - Keith especially
It Hurts Me Too - Pig & Jer pwned
Brown-eyed Women - The E72 version improved
Looks Like Rain - rare A+ version
Ramble On Rose - even better than 5/26
Not Fade Away>GDtRFB - some telepathy goin' on
One More Saturday Night - just to leave the Danes dancin'
SOURCES: I'm reviewing the released version but there's a fixed-Miller (best), an Ashley/Bertha and a Darrin Sacks (that all inexplicably chop the NFA>GDtRFB jam into 5 tracks).
Subject: OH YEAHH!!!
BTW HERES LIVE VIDEO HEAVEN FOR MY FELLOW HEADIES!!!!
Subject: I'm on tour with the Grateful Dead in Europe '72
If your a head with time listen to each show from this tour in order- man, its really something to hear the progression of these tunes man.
sweet sweet Archive of Life, the most Holiest of all Domains
This is one GREAT show...Listen to this when I don't want to give a damn about anything...when all I want to do is smile and be happy...Pigpen, Jerry and the boyz take me to that place I once lived in...a time before this crap monument erected itself in my psyche...
This show has everything I like...I don't know what the recording is like because I was outside my front door building a stone planter and I didn't critique the sound quality...BUT...the show rocks from beginning to end...the energy is kick-ass all the way through
Remember this show forever...listen to it in emergency emotional situations....especially those tunes where Pigpen lets loose....
Between the comlete tightness and pocket filling groove of theses guys; the stage banter is hillarious. This is the Grateful Dead.
I will say it... this is one of the best shows I have ever heard in my life.
Q? Some of this may have ended up on the album but I don't think so....
This show is why we are all using this archive to listen to shows to begin with....
ENJOY and DOWNLOAD!